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As the US looks to move on from COVID-19, high-risk and disabled Americans feel forgotten

As the US looks to move on from COVID-19, high-risk and disabled Americans feel forgotten
researchers at johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health estimate three out of four people will be infected with omicron before the surge ends joining us. Now to talk more about this stage we're at, in the pandemic is dr diane hess. Who is joining us once again, Thank you so much for joining us, doctor. How optimistic are you at this point that we may be getting closer to a time where we're just kind of living with the virus as opposed to consistently making different guidelines and mandates. Yeah, you know right now I'm optimistic but nobody knows what the future holds. So we don't know if there's gonna be another mutation that's gonna cause it to be more dangerous again um in history most pandemics do burn out by the virus becoming more contagious and less virulent. So that's what we're seeing with the omicron stream. So hopefully this will just become another, you know virus and other viral syndrome that we're going to live with and and learn how to deal with. And hopefully as more and more people become vaccinated will have less repercussions of the hospitalizations and missing school and missing work. Yeah. And so let's talk a little bit more about those mandates we're seeing across the country lately, Mask mandates are being lifted in um certain businesses or and even in schools, how do you think this factors into trying to reach this sort of endemic stage. Well personally, I I don't believe the masks were really working very well for omicron, I think the masks were extremely effective when the um when the pandemic started back in March 2020 but as american became so contagious um unless dangerous. Many, many people were relaxing their mask usage. I mean I have patients who have to wear a mask who are two years old in new york city, they have to wear a mask to daycare, but then they take a nap without a mask, so they're all in the same room together. Does the virus stop, you know, stop being president and restaurant droplets when you're sleeping? No, it's just that you can't enforce this anymore. It's not working. Um, I think for Children, the mask mandate should be dropped or be optional personally. I don't think that it was a very effective considering that new york city has a very strict mask mandate and almost, you know, all of our patients who are unvaccinated that covid between december and january. And last time we spoke with you dr Harris, you had some criticism for the CDCs messaging when it came to the booster shots. Now there's some other conversation when it comes to the messaging around masking as states are lifting restrictions more and more. But the CDC hasn't officially changed its guidance yet. What are your thoughts on what's going on there? I just feel it's very politicized, I feel that they've dug their heels in and then they they don't want to change because of, you know these political affiliations, they have instead of basing their decisions on science, I mean most, most, you know, infectious disease doctors, epidemiologists say that we can lift the mask ban now, especially for kids when the repercussions of wearing the mask are so much greater. You know, you always have the option as an adult or as a parent, mask your child, but to collectively punish a whole population of Children who are not benefiting from the mask, they're still gonna catch omicron. What's going to happen is by the time the youngest Children are eligible for the vaccine, probably in april, most of those kids are already gonna have omicron because it is spreading so quickly to the kids who are unvaccinated. So I just feel like they dug their heels in and they are very resistant to change where other countries really, you know, change as the science and you know, technology changes with it. Um, I feel that the CDC has always lagged behind and that all being said, what are your thoughts on how we can make sure to keep immuno compromised people safe? I know you mentioned that you think masking shouldn't be required in schools, but what about places where people um are more at risk of getting very sick or dying from covid, even if they are vaccinated, Well, you can say like in hospitals or healthcare settings, everybody has to be masked. That would be something fair to say. Um, but remember people who are immuno compromised are very um immuno compromised for not just covid, so they have to be cautious for things like flu or RsV or, you know, any other virus. So those people can choose to still wear masks. I know when I say this, you know, a lot of people get upset and I put myself out there and I get nasty emails and messages from people saying, well my child is immune compromised or my spouse is immune compromised. The thing is, is that everybody needs to have a chance to get over this pandemic and to live again. And you can't collectively punish all the students, the United States, when students in the Netherlands, students in Israel, students in UK, they all go to school without masks and they're not, you know, dropping dead like the media wants you to think they are, they are just getting, you know, the armor convex virus if they are getting sick and they're sick for two or three days and they go back to school after five days. I don't even think you have to be home for five days if you're not symptomatic personally. Yeah. Well, I don't think that not all media is, is saying that kids are going to drop dead if they're not wearing their mouth. No, but it's not like it's a lot. It's, yeah, not you, I'm sorry, but like I feel like, you know, people read the headlines and there's a lot of fear mongering and that's been happening, you know, since then and there's a small group of us that are vocal and uh, you know, we get criticized, but we're the ones who are dealing with the kids every day. We are the ones who are taking care of the families every day. And we see that really hasn't been more for kids who are healthy. It hasn't been more than a febrile viral illness with some group. Yes. There is a very small percentage who get the inflammatory disorder, but still it's treatable. They're not dying from it. And we have other viruses that, you know, are very dangerous for kids to like flu. And that's why we give the flu vaccine. But we have we have to start evolving and changing our rules and mandates to meet the science. Yes. And we will see if the CDC does indeed change guidance. Moving forward. Alright. Doctor has with gramercy pediatrics. Thanks again for joining us.
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As the US looks to move on from COVID-19, high-risk and disabled Americans feel forgotten
Tasha Nelson's 10-year-old son held back tears when he heard the news. The two were in the car when the announcement came through the radio: Virginia's freshly sworn-in governor had signed an order attempting to ban mask mandates in schools."My son looked up at me and he had tears in his eyes because he knew what it meant. He said, 'Mom, does that mean I can't go to school anymore?'" Nelson said. "He said, 'Can't we let the governor know about kids like me? I want to go to school too.'"Jack, a fourth-grader, has cystic fibrosis, a progressive genetic disease that causes persistent, damaging lung infections, making it harder to breathe over time. Like other immunocompromised, disabled and chronically ill Americans, Jack was taking measures, like masking, to dodge infections before the pandemic too. But with COVID-19 still rampant, it's not as easy. Even though he's vaccinated, the virus poses a serious, potentially deadly, risk to Jack. His 2-year-old brother, who is not yet eligible for the shots, is another concern.Nelson is among a group of parents who sued Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin over that order, claiming it puts students who are immunocompromised or have disabilities at risk and violates the Americans with Disabilities Act. CNN has reached out to Youngkin's office for comment on the lawsuit.Roughly two weeks after that lawsuit was filed, the governor signed a bill into law allowing parents to opt their children out of school mask mandates.Nelson is keeping her son at home again because of it."This whole pandemic, our culture, media (and) government has made it very clear to high-risk and disabled people that we are an acceptable loss," Nelson said. 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Others say the downward trends justify those moves and note Omicron is milder than earlier variants for most healthy people.As local and state leaders nationwide remove mask and vaccination rules, those at high risk for severe disease say doing away with protections now leaves them more vulnerable, especially as they, or family members, return to in-person work or school. And for some, COVID-19 vaccines are not as effective in staving off a severe bout with the virus, prompting the CDC to recommend a fourth shot for immunocompromised people 12 years and older in October.Roughly seven million American adults are immunocompromised, the CDC estimates. While not all have conditions that leave them severely immunocompromised and vulnerable to severe COVID-19, about 61 million adults 바카라 게임 웹사이트 roughly one in four in the U.S. 바카라 게임 웹사이트 have some type of disability, according to the agency. 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She has Common Variable Immunodeficiency Disorder (CVID), meaning her body does not produce protective antibodies to defend itself against pathogens like bacteria or viruses.The couple considered leaving their home in Ames and moving to southern California, where stricter masking protocols could have helped protect her. But they ruled out the idea after California's governor lifted the indoor mask mandate for vaccinated people this month, citing a drop in infections.Iowa's lawmakers are going even further 바카라 게임 웹사이트 a bill looking to effectively ban vaccine and mask mandates is making its way through the legislature. "We have to make a choice between staying alive and having a life," Willette said.The high-risk people CNN spoke to said as the country eagerly looks to move on from the pandemic, they feel forgotten 바카라 게임 웹사이트 and worse, like they don't matter to the rest of the American public. Some say they feel like they've been left to adapt to a more dangerous reality, while others are now mapping out a permanently isolated lifestyle.Tracking COVID-19:A fourth COVID-19 shot might be recommended this fallIvermectin doesn't prevent severe disease from COVID-19, new study finds COVID-19 hospitalizations average $4,000 in out-of-pocket costs per visit, research says Families faced with impossible choicesIn Wilmington, Massachusetts, Karen Yurek's family is navigating a tough balancing act. Yurek and her husband are both high-risk and on immunosuppressant medications. She has rheumatoid arthritis and he has multiple sclerosis. Both have received four COVID-19 shots and work remotely.Their family was almost entirely isolated until last week, when their 6-year-old son, Billy, returned to school. Billy is vaccinated, and Yurek and her husband felt he could stay safe with the help of a universal masking requirement that was in place.Then, state officials announced they were lifting the mandate at the end of February. Yurek wrote to the Wilmington School Committee, urging them to keep masks mandatory to "protect the members of our community who don't have the luxury of 'normal' anymore."The committee voted Wednesday to lift its mask mandate, posing a difficult dilemma for Yurek's family: pull their child out of in-person class or risk serious illness."It's really demoralizing," Yurek said. "It just feels like everyone's so focused on getting back to normal that ... they're forgetting about all of the really at-risk people. And if they're not forgetting about them, that they're just saying, 'Well, you're on your own.'"Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN's John Berman on Thursday that lifting school mask mandates given the current transmission levels could push cases back up. "We've been to this show before," he said. "Where things came down, you pull back a little, and it bounces back."When asked this month about immunocompromised Americans who feel left behind, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said the agency is working to update its mask guidance so it is "relevant for the public, but also for the public who is immunocompromised and disabled," but offered no further details.To help keep more people safe, mask requirements should depend on how much virus is circulating in a community, said Raymund Razonable, a professor of medicine at the Mayo Clinic and vice chair of the division of public health, infectious diseases and occupational medicine in Rochester, Minnesota. 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"We're hurting."Kris Giere, a 42-year-old who has Type 1 diabetes and lives in Indiana, a state that ended its mask mandate last April, echoed the same."I'm tired of having to worry about how many disease vectors I'm in contact with," Giere said. "I'm on edge every day, because I don't get to go back to normal. There is no going back to normal for me."'We don't have the luxury of pretending the pandemic is over'When the CDC updated its isolation guidelines in December to say people can leave isolation five days after testing positive if their symptoms are gone or getting better, and to wear a well-fitted mask for 10 days, the agency also urged them to "avoid people who are immunocompromised or at high risk for severe disease," for at least 10 days.But it can be hard to know when someone 바카라 게임 웹사이트 a coworker, a friend or a passerby 바카라 게임 웹사이트 is immunocompromised or high-risk, Moreno pointed out. It's why many conditions are known as "invisible illnesses.""No one ... has given me a giant foam hat with an arrow saying 'immunocompromised' on it," said Matthew Cortland, who works on disability and health policy at Data for Progress, a left-leaning think tank. "The lengths we have to go to in order to mitigate, to some extent, the risk that society at large is just offloading onto us is absurd."Cortland permanently works from home. But many friends who are also chronically ill and disabled don't have the same option. That's why public health measures remain critical, Cortland said, including global vaccination campaigns, widespread availability and use of high-quality masks, research into more adaptive personal protective equipment, improvements to indoor air quality, better testing procedures and sufficient treatments.The U.S. has increased its order for one of the key preventive therapies for the immunocompromised, Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra announced last week. But even with that boost, the country will only have enough of that monoclonal antibody treatment for less than a quarter of its immunocompromised population. And while there are other COVID-19 therapeutics that can help people including the severely immunocompromised, they are still also in short supply in many parts of the U.S. and won't be more widely available until spring, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has said."There's not enough for the millions of immunocompromised patients," said Razonable. In his hospital, he said there is a "sufficient" supply to cover only "the highest risk group" of people.Two years in, high-risk Americans are feeling traumatized and exhausted from the daily risk assessments and new hurdles that life in a COVID-era America comes with.As Cortland puts it: "No one wants to actually be done with the pandemic more than disabled, chronically ill, and immunocompromised Americans. We just don't have the luxury of pretending the pandemic is over when it isn't. And it clearly is not."

Tasha Nelson's 10-year-old son held back tears when he heard the news. The two were in the car when the announcement came through the radio: Virginia's freshly sworn-in governor had signed an order attempting to ban mask mandates in schools.

"My son looked up at me and he had tears in his eyes because he knew what it meant. He said, 'Mom, does that mean I can't go to school anymore?'" Nelson said. "He said, 'Can't we let the governor know about kids like me? I want to go to school too.'"

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Jack, a fourth-grader, has cystic fibrosis, a progressive genetic disease that causes persistent, damaging lung infections, making it harder to breathe over time. Like other immunocompromised, disabled and chronically ill Americans, Jack was taking measures, like masking, to dodge infections before the pandemic too. But with COVID-19 still rampant, it's not as easy. Even though he's vaccinated, the virus poses a serious, , risk to Jack. His 2-year-old brother, who is not yet eligible for the shots, is another concern.

Nelson is among a group of parents who sued Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin over that order, claiming it puts students who are immunocompromised or have disabilities at risk and violates the Americans with Disabilities Act. CNN has reached out to Youngkin's office for comment on the lawsuit.

Roughly two weeks after that lawsuit was filed, the governor signed a bill into law allowing parents to opt their children out of school mask mandates.

Nelson is keeping her son at home again because of it.

"This whole pandemic, our culture, media (and) government has made it very clear to high-risk and disabled people that we are an acceptable loss," Nelson said. "We're doing everything we can to survive this pandemic too."

COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations are declining nationwide, but transmission 바카라 게임 웹사이트 how much virus is circulating in a community 바카라 게임 웹사이트 remains high in more than 90% of the United States, according to from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC to mask indoors in areas of substantial or high transmission.

But public health experts are split on whether it's time to lift mitigation measures. Some say dropping protections at a time when COVID-19 numbers are so high is a political move rather than a public health one. Others say the downward trends justify those moves and note Omicron is milder than earlier variants for most healthy people.

As local and state leaders nationwide remove mask and vaccination rules, those at high risk for severe disease say doing away with protections now leaves them more vulnerable, especially as they, or family members, return to in-person work or school. And for some, COVID-19 vaccines are not as effective in staving off a severe bout with the virus, prompting the CDC to recommend a fourth shot for immunocompromised people 12 years and older in October.

Roughly seven million American adults are immunocompromised, the CDC . While not all have conditions that leave them severely immunocompromised and vulnerable to severe COVID-19, about 61 million adults 바카라 게임 웹사이트 roughly one in four in the U.S. 바카라 게임 웹사이트 have some type of disability the agency. More than three million children had a disability in 2019, to the U.S. Census Bureau.

"Everyone knows someone who had cancer, everyone knows somebody who had a kidney transplant for one reason or another, or someone who's got Alzheimer's or someone who has a heart condition or someone who was born with a rare immunodeficiency," said Sara Willette, who has been in isolation with her husband in Iowa since the state reported its first case of the virus, some 700 days ago.

"The more protections that we remove, the less accessible the rest of the world becomes to people who are high-risk," Willette said.

Even though Willette is triple vaccinated and preparing for her fourth shot, catching the virus could be deadly. She has Common Variable Immunodeficiency Disorder (CVID), meaning her body does not produce protective antibodies to defend itself against pathogens like bacteria or viruses.

The couple considered leaving their home in Ames and moving to southern California, where stricter masking protocols could have helped protect her. But they ruled out the idea after California's governor lifted the indoor mask mandate for vaccinated people this month, citing a drop in infections.

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Families faced with impossible choices

In Wilmington, Massachusetts, Karen Yurek's family is navigating a tough balancing act. Yurek and her husband are both high-risk and on immunosuppressant medications. She has rheumatoid arthritis and he has multiple sclerosis. Both have received four COVID-19 shots and work remotely.

Their family was almost entirely isolated until last week, when their 6-year-old son, Billy, returned to school. Billy is vaccinated, and Yurek and her husband felt he could stay safe with the help of a universal masking requirement that was in place.

Then, state officials announced they were lifting the mandate at the end of February. Yurek the Wilmington School Committee, urging them to keep masks mandatory to "protect the members of our community who don't have the luxury of 'normal' anymore."

The committee voted Wednesday to lift its mask mandate, posing a difficult dilemma for Yurek's family: pull their child out of in-person class or risk serious illness.

"It's really demoralizing," Yurek said. "It just feels like everyone's so focused on getting back to normal that ... they're forgetting about all of the really at-risk people. And if they're not forgetting about them, that they're just saying, 'Well, you're on your own.'"

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN's John Berman on Thursday that lifting school mask mandates given the current transmission levels could push cases back up. "We've been to this show before," he said. "Where things came down, you pull back a little, and it bounces back."

When about immunocompromised Americans who feel left behind, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said the agency is working to update its mask guidance so it is "relevant for the public, but also for the public who is immunocompromised and disabled," but offered no further details.

To help keep more people safe, mask requirements should depend on how much virus is circulating in a community, said Raymund Razonable, a professor of medicine at the Mayo Clinic and vice chair of the division of public health, infectious diseases and occupational medicine in Rochester, Minnesota. Shedding masks at a time the virus is still rampant and the threat of more variants 바카라 게임 웹사이트 including an Omicron subvariant 바카라 게임 웹사이트 loom is a risk, Razonable told CNN.

All but one of the remaining states that still had mask mandates in place 바카라 게임 웹사이트 Hawaii 바카라 게임 웹사이트 have announced plans to remove them.

Other local leaders have announced the end of vaccine measures too. The country's capital put an end to its indoor business vaccine requirement Tuesday. In the following days, Philadelphia and Boston also announced they were dropping vaccine requirements. In New York City, Mayor Eric Adams employers to end work-from-home policies, saying in a news conference, "We need people back to work."

"Unfortunately, for the most part, we're seeing a lot of disregard for the immunocompromised and the disabled community," said April Moreno, a public health expert and founder of thea nonprofit research and advocacy organization. "We're hurting."

Kris Giere, a 42-year-old who has Type 1 diabetes and lives in Indiana, a state that ended its mask mandate last April, echoed the same.

"I'm tired of having to worry about how many disease vectors I'm in contact with," Giere said. "I'm on edge every day, because I don't get to go back to normal. There is no going back to normal for me."

'We don't have the luxury of pretending the pandemic is over'

When the CDC updated its isolation guidelines in December to say people can leave isolation five days after testing positive if their symptoms are gone or getting better, and to wear a well-fitted mask for 10 days, them to "avoid people who are immunocompromised or at high risk for severe disease," for at least 10 days.

But it can be hard to know when someone 바카라 게임 웹사이트 a coworker, a friend or a passerby 바카라 게임 웹사이트 is immunocompromised or high-risk, Moreno pointed out. It's why many conditions are known as "invisible illnesses."

"No one ... has given me a giant foam hat with an arrow saying 'immunocompromised' on it," said Matthew Cortland, who works on disability and health policy at Data for Progress, a left-leaning think tank. "The lengths we have to go to in order to mitigate, to some extent, the risk that society at large is just offloading onto us is absurd."

Cortland permanently works from home. But many friends who are also chronically ill and disabled don't have the same option. That's why public health measures remain critical, Cortland said, including global vaccination campaigns, widespread availability and use of high-quality masks, research into more adaptive personal protective equipment, improvements to indoor air quality, better testing procedures and sufficient treatments.

The U.S. has increased its order for one of the key preventive therapies for the immunocompromised, Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra last week. But even with that boost, the country will only have enough of that monoclonal antibody treatment for less than a quarter of its immunocompromised population. And while there are other COVID-19 therapeutics that can help people including the severely immunocompromised, they are still also in short supply in many parts of the U.S. and won't be more widely available until spring, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has said.

"There's not enough for the millions of immunocompromised patients," said Razonable. In his hospital, he said there is a "sufficient" supply to cover only "the highest risk group" of people.

Two years in, high-risk Americans are feeling traumatized and exhausted from the daily risk assessments and new hurdles that life in a COVID-era America comes with.

As Cortland puts it: "No one wants to actually be done with the pandemic more than disabled, chronically ill, and immunocompromised Americans. We just don't have the luxury of pretending the pandemic is over when it isn't. And it clearly is not."